RE: Big Sky, 3/4 truck?
grampachet,
You will never get that point across, I have tried, The 350 has one advantage over the 250 a leaf spring, and you won't get that point across, I have tried that one also. There are legal issues so they say no one comes up with anything except scare tactics,and there are safety issues two seperate issues. The safety issue is the one I am most concerned with, and if the two 3/4 and 1 ton can be made egual in capacity, WHY NOT ?????????????????? This is also a guestion that never gets answered
RE: Big Sky, 3/4 truck?
Mav,
Let me help out here, I have the Montana 3400RL 38'4" Same floor plan as Montana Big Sky, heavier, probably a little with a GVWR of around 16000 mine being 15500 . I have the Onan 5500 LP generator @ 296 lbs. and my LOADED pin weight is 2420. If you want to use the infamous 20-25 % of GVWR ( 15500 ) then my pin weight would be between 3100 and 3875 no where near that nor will I ever be.
RE: Mfg trailer hitch installed or aftermarket on mew truck?
somebody has previously posted that one of the factory hitches on one of the pickups is junk. do a lot of research. Oh, the wiring package is certainly worth it. also overload springs/towing package, just the hitch is in question.
bumpy
What do you suppose was wrong with the factory receiver that was junk ?? Did it fall off the truck, did it drop a trailer what ??? I find it hard to believe a receiver hitch from the factory is junk, and if it was what would make it junk short of falling apart ????
I have towed ten years with a factory receiver not junk,when I get a new truck it will also have the factory receiver and tow package, why mess with aftermarket ????
I have absolutely no idea what the problem was. just heard it here and therefore it must be "factual". :p
oops, I see like2build answered you:
Now, as far as the receiver goes, there have been several GM OEM receivers that have bent, broken or cracked when used to tow heavy loads. GM's design was more concentrated on looks rather than function, so there was a great deal of flex in the receiver that resulted in excess stress and failure of components.
bumpy
Thanks, another reason I will stay with Ford
RE: Mfg trailer hitch installed or aftermarket on mew truck?
somebody has previously posted that one of the factory hitches on one of the pickups is junk. do a lot of research. Oh, the wiring package is certainly worth it. also overload springs/towing package, just the hitch is in question.
bumpy
What do you suppose was wrong with the factory receiver that was junk ?? Did it fall off the truck, did it drop a trailer what ??? I find it hard to believe a receiver hitch from the factory is junk, and if it was what would make it junk short of falling apart ????
I have towed ten years with a factory receiver not junk,when I get a new truck it will also have the factory receiver and tow package, why mess with aftermarket ????
RE: Picking up my 4x4 tomorrow.
4x4 are only needed by rancher,farmers,utl.companys, and that is about it, the rest have them because the neighbor had one first.
Who wrote that?
See here...
and
Here as well...I do have a small ranch in southwestern Az. So this will work out well bringing in the stock and checking fence lines.What new 4X4 did your neighbor get?
This is a pretty good exchange, but if you guys think you are going to get supercharged all supercharged up here think again. He got ya !!! looks like it was not the first time either.Please don't help inflate his self-inflated head!
Got nothing to do with inflating his ego, he just took you guys right where he wanted to, pure and simple, it was not hard to figure that one out. Carry on I enjoy the banter.
RE: Anyone else like the hallway design?
With two people, and not knowing the difference with the conventional and the one room bathroom with a hallway design, I find nothing I would change with the conventional design, potty in one room, shower and sink in the bedroom. You want privacy close the bedroom door and you have all you want. I think as long as you have a potty room seperate, there are no issues with two people.Like I said its nice to have the shower and the potty available to a couple, grandchildren and guests that would be another issue, which in our case is not a big enough issue to have a one room bathroom.
RE: Picking up my 4x4 tomorrow.
4x4 are only needed by rancher,farmers,utl.companys, and that is about it, the rest have them because the neighbor had one first.
Who wrote that?
See here...
and
Here as well...I do have a small ranch in southwestern Az. So this will work out well bringing in the stock and checking fence lines.What new 4X4 did your neighbor get?
This is a pretty good exchange, but if you guys think you are going to get supercharged all supercharged up here think again. He got ya !!! looks like it was not the first time either.
RE: Overload Springs vs. AIr Bags
There are a ton of posts on this subject and just about as many opinions. While it may or may not be true that springs are the major difference between vehicles, no matter what you do to your 2500 series truck it will not change the simple fact that according to the manufacturer it is still a 2500 series truck. Besides I doubt that springs alone are the whole story. How about tires, wheels, axles?
donn0128,
The ONLY difference between a ram 2500 and a ram 3500 SRW is the extra leaf (overload) spring. The clearance lights are an option. The tires, axles, brakes, and everything else is otherwise the same. You are right though, no matter what modifications made, it will still be a 2500.
If there were more of a difference, I would have purchased the 3500.
What you have to realize with some on this forum, and it is an easy check, is that they can't or won't recognize the facts about the difference between certain 3/4 and 1 ton trucks, Yes the 3/4 can be made to have the same capabilities as the 1 ton, but never the same rating ( door tag ). The safety issues may be taken care of, but some will argue is the legal part of it okay ??? Not my arguement, but there seems to guite a few on here that think you have an accident and you are deep trouble. I have yet to read one post where this has happened.
RE: Lakeshore RV
Lakeshore will match any price. I dealt with Marci at Lakeshore and she price matched and is very aggressive about selling RV's. I searched for two months before I finally settled on Lakeshore. I spoke to dealers in several different states. Lakeshore was about $5000.00 less than any other dealer nationwide. Lakeshore has been a great dealer for me to deal with they perform a super pre-ship test. I bought my TT from them sight unseen and had no problems with it. Give Marci a call she will give you great service.
Why give them an opportunity to match a price? If you get a lower price at a dealer up front, then they should deserve your business. Anyone can "match" a price, but it's better to see who WASN'T trying to get into your pocket book deeper up front, imo.
If Lakeshore would of matched the price for me I still would not of bought from them,yes it would of made no sense, I basically negotigated with them on a lower price and they could not even match the price I had been guoted by another dealer, and they were given that price to match or beat. I have heard several times they were the lowest prices, not for me they weren't. Maybe I didn't have the magic word or whatever.
RE: Lakeshore RV
Lakeshore will match any price. I dealt with Marci at Lakeshore and she price matched and is very aggressive about selling RV's. I searched for two months before I finally settled on Lakeshore. I spoke to dealers in several different states. Lakeshore was about $5000.00 less than any other dealer nationwide. Lakeshore has been a great dealer for me to deal with they perform a super pre-ship test. I bought my TT from them sight unseen and had no problems with it. Give Marci a call she will give you great service.
Must of changed there ways from last year at this time, I bought the 2008 3400RL last November cheaper elsewhere, and I gave them the opportunity to match or beat the price they couldn't do it. Actually there were two dealers I found that were cheaper than Lakeshore in Indiana.
RE: File on Insurance or out of pocket ?
..........Dropped 5'ver on my truck(1999 PSD-F250) awhile back . Been working so I haven't had a chance to see about getting it fixed , So my question is , Will my Comprehensive coverage on my truck cover this repair or will it be filed on my collision ? If , comp , then I have a 100 deductible and shouldn't count against my collision and increase my insurance premium . , thanks , jf
Call your insurance company they will have the correct answer. They don't cancel you for asking guestions
RE: Am I crazy...tires for towing
They look fine for towing and off road if you don't mind the price. If you are looking for larger tires they will work but if you want better tires there are several better brands that will give you more mileage.
You don't think the weight will be a problem?
Really I was going on looks...they are SEXY...any suggestion for something that looks good but will give me better mileage.
:h SEXY :h If anything was considered to be sexy on my tuck, I would have to take it mudding and not wash it ....It is a MANS truck not a chick truck...No sexy******here.... Joe
Obviously your wife or girlfriend which ever applies does not read this forum or your replies, kind of sexist isn't it Chick truck. What exactaly is a chick truck I would guess one with sexy tires like the ones the op mentioned ??? Then I guess if its all washed and clean instead of muddy then its a SEXY CHICK TRUCK
RE: New Heartland ? & towing w/F250 ?
I don't understand if you have the pinweight of the fiver and the payload of the truck is more than the pinweight, why the calculations? I understand the GVWR and GCWR, but not the 20-25% calculation. I have a 33' Montana and a Chev 2500HD, so just wonder why I read a lot about the pinweight. Thanks.
You and me both on the 20-25% of GVWR, if you listened to that you would have went out and bought a dually to tow that 33' Montana. I also have a Montana with a 15500 GVWR and if you take the average of 20-25 which is 22.5 my calculated pin weight would be right at 3400 lbs. When in reality the actual scaled weight LOADED is 2420, a far cry from 3400.Actual loaded weight of my 5ver is 12740. I have read numerous times on this forum to use 20-25% of the GVWR to get pin weight on a 5ver. Poor advice and not worth doing.The reason I say bad advice is that some people believe what they read instead of getting actual weights. How many people bailout of a certain 5ver thinking they have to much CALCULATED pin weight for there truck when in reality the were not.Case in point my actual weights veruses calculated weights. IMO not a good way to determine weight when trying to match an exsisting truck to a certain 5ver.
RE: Dually vs. Single Rear Wheel
Up2nogood, your argument about Chevy DRW against the Ford 1 ton makes sense except for your application. You own a 1999 1 ton Ford which has a 9900 GVW I believe like a Chevy 3500 SRW. Only thing is that your Ford is a lot heavier than the Chevy. If your back wheels are 5600# and your front wheels probably 4500 or heavier you are over your GVW. I owned a 2001 F-250 and it had the 8800# GVW. What a joke for carrying ability. The GVWs for the 250 and 350 are way to light for those years. If you are towing a 3400 Montana with your 350 then you are definately over your pin weight.
I can have this debate as long as you want it .You weight police can read the door tags all you want. I am willing to listen to reason, not door tags.If that is all you have then no need to reply to me. Save it for the guys that come on here and ask can I tow this with this, thats where you guys are in your element, guoting door tags.
I have always thought these types of discussions are pointless. I'm towing with the truck and trailer in sig and have no "control issues" that others mention. It cracks me up to see someone post about how over your weights when they have no idea how heavy the poster really is.
Amen ,but at times makes for good entertainment.I have no idea what some are talking about, have asked many times, all I get is weight tag guotes. Like I said I will listen to reason,someones experience, someones mishaps etc. Mostly what I hear is scare tactics with nothing to back it up, but I will keep listening until I hear something.
RE: Dually vs. Single Rear Wheel
Up2nogood, your argument about Chevy DRW against the Ford 1 ton makes sense except for your application. You own a 1999 1 ton Ford which has a 9900 GVW I believe like a Chevy 3500 SRW. Only thing is that your Ford is a lot heavier than the Chevy. If your back wheels are 5600# and your front wheels probably 4500 or heavier you are over your GVW. I owned a 2001 F-250 and it had the 8800# GVW. What a joke for carrying ability. The GVWs for the 250 and 350 are way to light for those years. If you are towing a 3400 Montana with your 350 then you are definately over your pin weight.
I can have this debate as long as you want it .You weight police can read the door tags all you want. I am willing to listen to reason, not door tags.If that is all you have then no need to reply to me. Save it for the guys that come on here and ask can I tow this with this, thats where you guys are in your element, guoting door tags.
RE: Oregon..support for pulling trailer behind 5th wheel
You may be trying to enlist support for the idea, but so far the two Oregonians that responded are against the idea. Does that give you any hint that this may not be what Oregon RVers are interested in? Besides, I believe that now California also requires an endorsement to tow doubles. Are you going to insist on that part of the California law too? I am rarely for government regulations that infringe on my rights, however in this case and seeing how bad of drivers many RVers are already, adding another 10-20-30 feet to the back of a truck/trailer combination IMHO is simply asking for more problems. I think you would get more support for a measure to require all drivers of RV's to have an endorsement to their standard automobile drivers license. This could only be issued after they proved beyond a reasonable doubt that they could safely handle the RV.
Donn, Where do you come up with the idea of how bad RV drivers are compared to any other driver on the road ?? Please explain that analogy. Rv drivers as a whole are a heck of alot better drivers than then average American in there SUV's IMO. Yes I see a few rigs towing too fast,but probably the speed limit, but IMO 75 is too fast for towing Rv's. I would think you would be more worried about the non RV rolling past you at 80-90 and losing control.
RE: Do you lubericate your 5th wheel hitch
I believe the article you were reading is in this month's Trailer Life, the damage was to a Super Glide. The company said that the hitch pretty much welded it's self in one possition due to the way tubes not beeing properly lubricated. When the way tubes are not lubed properly , that can cause the metal to heat and virtually weld together....Joe
Need to ask , does this put another nail in the coffin of those expensive auto sliders ?? Sounds like there is a fair amount of attention reguired on them ?? , just wondering . I have to ask another guestion since they were brought up. Do these auto sliders slide back and forth everytime you turn a corner ??, thus the heating problem ???
Back to the guestion .I have a reese 18k slider I lube the grease zerk thats on it, and use the lube plate. No grease on the slide, slides very well without, and I don't use it very often. Grease or no grease it is not going to weld itself together
RE: Rear end sagging to much
Moosetrek,
Thanks for the congrats. It took me 8.5 years(off and on) but finally after many doubts and thoughts of giving up I am done. It feels great.
Everyone else, thanks for your opinions:B and ideas.
Donn, there are many things I would like to say to you but refuse to stoop to your level and the sad things is you are probably double my age. Go figure. If you do know it all, tell me what my pen weight is. I can tell you before you research, which you won't ,that it is roughly 800 lbs. under your original estimate. Remember what they say about assuming....well you proved that analogy correct here. Thanks!
Now some simple math, minus your research. My pin weight is 2405 empty. I add springs that takes off roughly 1K lbs. That leaves me more or less at 1400k lbs. give or take. You mean to tell me thats to much for the truck. Once again had you read and COMPREHENDED all of my posts you would have read that the truck sags to much for "my liking." though it could take more-not much more. I have pulled heavier loads as a former ranch hand in deep south Texas and the truck was fine. It's simply the pin weight I am trying to fix. Once again, please re-read. It helps and prevents you from making yourself look the way you do, in which you are probably a great guy once you get out from behind the keyboard. Have a great day/night!
Donn ,this is what many have been trying to tell you for awhile, you are over the top on many of your replies. I will repeat and I hope you can learn from this, scare tactics and insults do not work. If you have had a bad experience with a overloaded truck maybe sharing it might open some eyes. You seem to think there are few 5vers out there that SRW can handle safely, and you are mistaken.
RE: Dually vs. Single Rear Wheel
With that weight....get a duelly! You will understand why when you are going down the interstate at 65 and a semi passes you doing 80.
Most folks believe that the most important asset a truck can posses is pulling ability. Nope. Handling and stopping top the list.
I "only" tow a max of 15,000 lbs, probably much less, and would not think about towing with anything less than a duelly. I've never worried about getting the rig weighed because I know I'm cautiously under the max for the truck. I believe in comfort in knowing the truck will handle anything thrown at it.
Many folks will argue with me though!
Lostdog
07 C3500 D/A with 6 wheels
08 Titanium 30E35SA with discs
18K Reese with a P3 Controller
Well that explains it you are driving a Chevy, can't blame you for wanting a dually.That was not an insult a 1 ton chev SRW does not stack up to a 1 ton ford SRW.I could go on and on about going across Wyoming with 40-50 MPH cross winds it would rock the 5ver ( 38' ) but didn't bother the handling of the truck ( Ford Superduty 1 ton SRW )I could go on and on about I80 having more semi's on it than cars getting pasted by many coming back to utah from Indiana towing the 5ver 1700 miles, not sure what you mean when they pass you ??? Was I supossed to lose control??? I could go on and on about hitting some frost heaves @ 65 mph on I80 in Wyoming that I thought was going to tear the fiver off of the truck handled fine. I could go on and on about going down Parleys Canyon in Utah ( some will know what parleys is like ) about a month ago @ 60 mph and coming around one of the last curves to find the traffic at a stop. The truck and 5ver stopped and handled very well and under control as some will say it was not the tail wagging the dog. I could go on and on and on, but I hope you get my point not all 5vers need a dually, yes there comes a time when it does.
RE: Dually vs. Single Rear Wheel
Maybe we can all get together some day, sit around a campfire, check out each others SRW and DRW TV's, AND your HDH and have a laugh or three. Herc,you take it easy out there buddy....oh, you got an awesome combo there, have you checked to make sure you have enough truck for that 5er:W:R............now you know I was kidding:B.Thats a great idea, then I can see how the other half lives with those gorgeous rigs of yoursCan I go? Can I go??? :)
Yea! You can go
